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Old 11May2008, 10:20 AM   #1
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Old 11May2008, 11:22 AM   #2
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Old 11May2008, 12:52 PM   #3
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Old 11May2008, 07:11 PM   #4
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Is there a difference between african and indian muslims in trinidad? I come from an indian muslim household where it is frowned upon to fraternise with africans and forbidden to marry. This would result in the person being disowned.

I have always fought against racism within my family, they look at me as very abnormal.

Can I ask why this is so?
This is a very sensitive topic for me
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Old 12May2008, 01:02 AM   #5
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...where it is frowned upon to fraternise with africans and forbidden to marry.




I'm an "indian" (and i hate this term), and the masjid that my wife and I try to go to, "indians" are in the minority, and Muslims upon the Sunnah (inshaAllah) are in the majority, walhamdulillah.

Something to think about, .


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Old 12May2008, 11:58 AM   #6
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Firstly, you must know, may Allaah have mercy on you, that there is no difference between a Muslim of East Indian decent and a Muslim of African decent except skin colour. What will be judged upon on the Day of Resurrection is our deeds and nothing else.

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What should be said here though, is that, it is important for us to understand that the religion shouldn't be judged through the actions of some of its people. If it was so, then perhaps all muslims would have been judged to be terrorists, all catholics, child molesters etc... but we know that this is not the case.

The issue of race, as we know, may always exists always because of this particular country we live in. However, there is no racism in Islaam whatsoever, as many of the Companions were of different races and there was unity amongst them on the basis of the creed of worshipping the One True God only.

One of the Scholars commenting on an issue related to racism said:

"...But a person's being smooth-skinned or hairy and his having a white complexion or a black complexion, all of this is just like his being either tall or short – he is neither praised nor condemned for any of these things. This is especially the case if this issue is based upon race. Some of us look towards the black person with a look of contempt because of the blackness of their skin. And perhaps some black people look towards white people with that same kind of look. And in a well-known expression, they call them "zanbras" meaning leper.

These are matters based on race. With regard to all of the human being, it is impossible to put praise or dispraise upon anything that he has no control over. Indeed, the praise and dispraise is only for that which is produced by this adult human being, regardless of whether he is white, black, smooth-skinned or hairy."


So this sums it up quite nicely wa lillaahil hamd.
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Old 12May2008, 06:25 PM   #7
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Thank you very much for your supportive replies.

Can you explain this to my immediate and extended families? nothing I say makes sense to them where race is concerned. You have to admit though that this problem does exist in our islamic social circles.

I was told by my family that they would rather I marry a kuffar than have to live in shame like that. How am I supposed to cross these barriers? They don't care what I say.
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Can you explain this to my immediate and extended families? nothing I say makes sense to them where race is concerned. You have to admit though that this problem does exist in our islamic social circles.

I was told by my family that they would rather I marry a kuffar than have to live in shame like that. How am I supposed to cross these barriers? They don't care what I say.
Indeed racism is a disease that has spread throughout the entire globe and there is not a corner except that the darkness of racism has penetrated it in some form or fashion. It exists particularly in our country perhaps because of our mixed races and cultures.

The only cure for racism is Islaam and by that I mean practising the real Islaam as the Companions practised it. Certainly there were many races amongst them yet they were united upon one purpose. And it is only by following their example and the example of the one they followed (i.e. the Prophet ) will racism by obliterated.

Imaam Maalik said: "The last part of this Ummah will not be rectified except by that which rectified its first part."

And from the aspects that were rectified in that first part of the Ummah was the issue of racism. There were romans, persians, africans, arabs and others making up the Companions and due to their vigourous striving upon the Qur'aan and the way of the Prophet , they cut the throat of racism.

But due to lack of knowledge and understanding, and our turning away from the Religion then racism has been revived with a great revival and Allaah's Help is ever sought.

Our advice to you is that you make du'a and ask Allaah for guidance and understanding and that you ask Him that He guides your family away from this primitive and ignorant idealogy and gives them some understanding of the Religion of Islaam.

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Sister I somewhat feel your pain. And there are racism in the more OLDER heads of our islamic soceity. Alhamdullilah, that is disappearing a bit with the newer, more islamically educated generation.

I think the fact that your family tells u that they rather you marry a khuffar is a very strong statement because this is clearly disobeying the quran.

“And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al‑Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikoon) invite you to the Fire, but Allaah invites (you) to Paradise and forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember”
[al-Baqarah 2:221]

I remembered my father told me when I was 16, "it is better to marry a believing slave than a non-believing king". You can make dua for them, for ALLAH to open their hearts and to guide them. You can PM me sis.
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does anyone know a sister who maybe who is certified personal trainer? its difficult to go to the gym.
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