Concerning Death Announcements
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As-Salaamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh.
Our brother, Khaalid ath-Thufayree, may Allaah preserve him, said: quote:
سألت شيخنا العلامة الشيخ ربيع رعاه الله عن حكم إعلان الوفاة في المنتديات وهل هو داخل في النعي المنهي عنه .
فقال : نعم هو من النعي .
فقلت له : إذن الأولى تركه .
فقال : بل الواجب تركه .
which means: quote:
I asked our shaykh, the 'Allaamah Shaykh Rabee', may Allaah protect him, about the ruling on announcing deaths on (internet) forums, and is this considered from the prohibited forms of announcing deaths?
He said, "Yes, it is a kind of announcing deaths."
I said, "So therefore it is more appropriate to abandon it?"
He said, "Rather it is obligatory to abandon it."
May Allaah reward him for conveying this to us. Here is the source:
The Permanent Committee on Announcing Deaths
الإعلان عن وفاة الميت
السؤال الثاني من الفتوى رقم (4276)
س2: هل يجوز الإعلان بوفاة من يموت في القرية على سبورة موضوعة في المسجد، خصيصًا لهذا؟ مع العلم أنه يوجد من يقوم بغسل الميت وتكفينه، أما الصلاة عليه فإنه يصلى عندنا بعد الظهر أو العصر في المسجد على الجنازة.
ج2: أولًا: الإعلان عن وفاة الميت بشكل يشبه النعي المنهي عنه لا يجوز، وأما الإخبار عنه في أوساط أقاربه ومعارفه من أجل الحضور للصلاة عليه، وحضور دفنه فذلك جائز، وليس من النعي المنهي عنه؛ لأن النبي ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ لما مات النجاشي بالحبشة أخبر المسلمين بموته وصلى عليه.
ثانيًا: لا ينبغي اتخاذ لوحة في المسجد للإعلان فيها عن الوفيات وأشباهها، ذلك لأن المساجد لم تبن لهذا.
وبالله التوفيق وصلى الله على نبينا محمد وآله وصحبه وسلم .
اللجنة الدائمة للبحوث العلمية والإفتاء
عضو/ عبد الله بن غديان
نائب الرئيس/ عبد الرازق عفيفي
رئيس اللجنة/ عبد العزيز بن عبد الله بن باز
Announcing the Death of the Deceased
Second Answer from Fatwa no. 4276
Question. Is it permissible to announce the death of the deceased in a town on a board that has been placed in the mosque specifically for this purpose? Alongside the knowledge that the one who will perform the washing (of the body) and shrouding is found. As for the prayer over him then we pray the janaazah after dhuhr or asr in the masjid.
Answer: Firstly, Announcing the death of the deceased in a form that resembles the Na`ee (death announcement) that has been forbidden is not permissible. As for informing about it in the midst of his (the dead person's) relatives and acquaintances, for the purpose of attending to pray over him, and attending his burial, then that is permissible, and is not considered from the Na`ee that has been forbidden - because the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wasallam), when an-Najjaashee died in Abysinnia - he informed the Muslims of his death and prayed over him.
Secondly: It is not desirable to have a board in the mosque in order to announce deaths and what is similar to them. This is because the mosque has not been built for this purpose.
And with Allaah lies succcess, may the prayers and salutations be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family and his companions.
The Permanent Committee for Research and Verdicts.
Member / `Abdullaah al-Ghudayaan
Deputy Head /`Abdur-Razzaa1 al-`Afeefee
Head / `Abdul-`Azeez bin Baaz
أبو عياض أمجد بن محمد رفيق
-=amjad bin muhammad=-
Ibn Hajar on an-Na`ee - from Fath ul-Baaree
And Ibn Hajar said, commenting on the hadeeth of the Prophet's announcement of the death of an-Najjaashee, mentioned in the fourth chapter in the Book of Funerals.
"...He said: And the benefit of this tarjamah (i.e. wording in the hadeeth) is an indication that an-Na`ee (death announcement) is not completely forbidden, but that which the people of Jaahiliyyah used to do is forbidden. They used to send one who would announce the news of the death of the deceased at the doors of (people's) houses and (in) the markets. And Ibn al-Muraabit said, "His intent is that the Na`ee which is informing the people about the death of their near-relative is permissible, even if it comprises entering hardship and calamities upon his (the deceased's) family. However in this mafsadah (this announcement which brings hardship and calamity) there are ample benefits (masaalih), due to what arises out of knowing that (i.e. the death of the deceased), such as hastening to attend his janaazah, arranging his affair, prayer over him, supplicating for him, seeking forgiveness for him, and fulfilling his will, and whatever rulings arise from that.
As for the Na`ee of Jaahiliyyah, then Sa`eed bin Mansoor said, "Ibn `Aliyyah informed us from Ibn `Awn who said: I said to Ibraaheem: Did they used to dislike an-Na`ee? He said: Yes. Ibn `Awn said: When a man died a person would ride on a beast and then shout amongst the people, "I announce the death of so and so". And also from to Ibn `Awn that he said, "Ibn Seereen said: I do not know of any harm in a man announcing to his friend or close companion".
The sum of this is that mere announcment (of the death) is not disliked, but if something is added on top of that (announcement), then no. And some of the Salaf used to be severe in this matter until Hudhayfah, when a person of his would die he would say: "Do not notify anyone, for I fear that it might be na`ee (the prohibited form of announcing death), for I heard the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) with these two ears of mine prohibiting from an-Na`ee". Reported by at-Tirmidhee and Ibn Maajah with a hasan isnaad.
Ibn al-`Arabee said, "There are three situations taken from all of the ahaadeeth together: The first: Notifying the family, companions and the people of rectitude. This is sunnah. The second: Inviting to a gathering for boasting, this is disliked. The third: Another form of notification, such as Niyaahah (lamenting, wailing) and the likes, this is prohibited..."
Fath ul-Baaree (3/150-151)
أبو عياض أمجد بن محمد رفيق
-=amjad bin muhammad=-